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Why indifferent?
Comrades,
I’m not trying to hate on our group name, but we should be cautious about how we throw the word indifferent around. We must remind ourselves of the definition of the word indifferent. A good definition from the dictionary is: without interest or concern; not caring; apathetic: his indifferent attitude toward the suffering of others.
This being said I sometimes question why we call ourselves “indifferent”, even though it sounds good. Are we indifferent toward the millions of people suffering from poverty in this country? Are we indifferent towards the police brutality and terror used on Philly’s black communities…hell no! Are we indifferent towards liars and criminals such as George Bush being elected to the presidency, No! We all care about these issues and want to make social change.
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In fact it is the because of the huge amount of indifference in the world that huge injustices such as genocide and colonization are able to happen. Nazi Germany came to power and massacred millions because millions of other people were bystanders, they were indifferent, they did not speak up! – [The] Same with the genocide in the Congo, slavery in the US, etc. In fact, political activists have always battled against indifference and apathy, and worked to raise people’s consciousness. This is what our group is about.
I assume that our group is using the word in an artistic individual way by claiming that we are indifferent to all the bullshit, beauracracy and the current power structure that plagues our world and stifles art and creativity, and that we are creative, independent artists who want to do our own thing without getting affected by the restraints of the system, or something like that. Dre, let me know if that’s kinda what you mean with the word.
-Drew
Personally, I think its more of a don’t judge a book by its cover kind of situation. If someone sees our name, Indifferent, and automatically assumes oh these guys just don’t care about a damn thing…then they’re ignorant dumb ass shouldn’t even check out the site anyways. I’d tell ‘em not to, personally. We should be based on our CONTENT, which is what will happen regardless. Though, I do see what you’re saying. Even still, there’s no way someone will see the name and automatically assume these guys don’t care about this or that. That just sounds crazy.
Its up to the reader to make sense and make a definition out of whatever we’ve presented in front of them…From a social commentary, to a corny joke, to rave reviews for the new flavor of love chick with the big…uh, u see where I’m going. Bottom line is, we could post all kinds of things, but if someone sees our commentary on society’s ills, they maybe thinking…pssh, this shit is bullshit.
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They may feel the need to start a revolution. Um, basically I’m saying, “whats in a name?” Nothing. Just like when I met my friend’s roommate named Jerome, I was like oh word cool. But then dude was Chinese…like for real (that’s a true story…really…dude was a cornball too, but I digress.) So, yeah. I can ramble, but basically, what you put in, is what you get out. Soapbox or not.
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– C.Ulli
I agree with both parties. When people outside of our group see the name, they may jump to the wrong conclusion. There are many people out there hung up on the book definition of words. However, if they’ve got their panties and boxers that tied up in a knot, maybe they need not peruse our website. But then again…aren’t they the people we want to enlighten?? Why preach to the choir? But then again… if we have enough enlightened ones that take the risk and enter the depths of “Indifferent”, then they can help us spread the word. We’re all about lighting up the universe and being a catalyst for social change…right? So let ‘em assume…we can’t let their negative energy touch us!!!
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But Drew and Chegge…preach on Brothas.
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~Noise
Yo! What’s good iLLadelphians? Femi, I give you props for starting a discussion with the shortest comment/question ever. As always you chose your words wisely (or do you?). Drew I agree with the last four sentences of what you said. Let me recap:
“I assume that our group is using the word in an artistic individual way by claiming that we are indifferent to all the bullshit, bureaucracy and the current power structure that plagues our world and stifles art and creativity, and that we are creative, independent artists who want to do our own thing without getting affected by the restraints of the system. Or something like that.”
Yes, absolutely.
I also think that our name will function as a brand name, which leads back to what Ulli said about content. INDIfferent as a brand, will be known by the content of our website, events, books, poems, songs, pictures.. whatever it may be.
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So my friends, let me express to you how excited I am about the
website and our collective:
VVVVEEEEEERRRRRYYYYYYY
EEEXXCCCIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTEEEEEEDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s keep it moving into ‘08.
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Peace and love
-Thor
P.S. I’m indifferent to bullshit. Rush Hour download
I’m gonna have to co-sign with my illustrious brother, Thor, as I am also indifferent to bullshit.
-Brandon Tyler
THOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!… I agree
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Ummm, I got papers to send to Dre soooo, i’ma get back on that. (see u lurking dre)
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– C.Ulli
Hey brothas and sistas…. Thor !!!!!!!!! Sac pase!!!!!!!!! …..indifference to bullshit sounds good to me, so its unanimous. Chegge, I’m in the same boat as you so I’ll be short time so I can send something to Drematic to work with.
New question people: If you had the power to change any one aspect of society (I’m talking the world not just America) what would you change and why?
Personally, I’d do a 180 flip on the whole monetary system—maybe switch it to barter and trade. But after reading Plato’s Republic, I think that everyone’s basic necessities should be provided by the state, and that the concepts of private ownership of things like land and resources should be done away with. Instead of being profit driven, the world I envision would be driven by humanitarian motives.
A true meritocracy moved by theocracy replacing democracy and the tyranny of currency. In that kind of world, war would be a retarded way of settling differences (though that certainly is true even now), and hopefully few would find reasons to steal or defraud because no one would ever go hungry.
-Adrian
Mad-fucking late to the discussion but Drew, to espouse on your concern, when I was thinking of INDIfferent I was considering the collective representing a resounding negation of all that is wrong in our society in particular whether you choose to view it on a macro or micro level. I felt that to be INDIfferent to the very forces that cause such injustice and hurt is very important. Historically speaking, in my humble opinion, indifference has served to push people forward past points of refusal or discomfort. Take for example what I would consider to be many black American slaves’ indifference to the dangers of learning to read or refusing to be held back from voting. This form of active indifference is the only indifference I considered when thinking about the moniker.
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The indifference that had to have been coursing through the veins of Martin Luther King or Malcolm X, both having received many death-threats and insults on their character. The indifference expressed in every single social-revolution that only death silences. Whether we are speaking of the indifference towards colonization that made Haiti the first self-governing black nation in the western hemisphere or whether we are speaking of the indifference that the Viet-Cong fought with to outlast and out-perform the United States army in a war they should have been heavily defeated in. Whichever instance, the active utilization of “not giving a fuck” about anything other than your idea or ideal is obtained and/or realized is the only indifference I favor or acknowledge.
The passive indifference in which I believe you are referring to is deplorable and disgusting. It is inhumane not to feel, which is why I think the active use of indifference is so vital. It takes decided action, drive, vision, and a principled uncompromising will to not waiver, “fuck that!” in the face of all that is going on in the world. To take a righteous stance and act and live accordingly as people on this earth is truly acting “INDIfferent” to the culture of excuses and lies, political spin, capitalist-non-human interests, and ethnic abuse and genocide hiding under the guise of “development” we find ourselves living in today.
-Dave
